Mike_W

Motorhead wrote:
I do not know if you can say that Douglas "private-labeled" for Kirby when Douglas and Kirby are owned by the same company S&F(owned by Berkshire Hatheway).  Douglas models were also under the Kirby banner like the corded Vacuette, the rechargeable Split Second handvac and the Split Second II, which was a handvac that plugged into your automobile cig lighter.

CarmineD wrote: It is fine if you disagree w/me.  I think you need to explain more how water is going to degrade the cloth vacuum bag of this Eureka.  There are actually other factors that degrade cloth and it is not water and detergent.  The sun is one of them.  Another is bleach.  How about agitation and friction.  If the Eureka bag is so old and frail, then I think the agitation and friction, from a broom, will be damaging also.

Venson wrote:
Ah, so that is where you got your info for Michael.  Notice nowhere did it say  "Do Not Wash the Bag".  HOOVER, and others, wanted to make maintenance of their machines easy.  Users would not wash their bag nor would they sweep it out.  Who wants to clean their shake out vacuum bag.  Hey, plenty of vacuum makers told people to empty their bags after every use.  But did they do that? No.  What do they do if the bag needed to be cleaned?  They would  take it to the vac shop and it would be hooked up to a machine that brushes it for them.

Hand washing a cloth bag on the Eureka Rotomatic/Super Rotomatic canister would probably only be done once or twice in its lifetime.  There is no reason to wash it on a monthly basis.  The above poster, Michael, is a collector.  He wants to make his newly acquired machine more presentable.  The handwashing will not hurt the bag if he has examined it before he washes.

You will be hardpressed to find any old manuals that state, "Do Not Wash".  Today it is different, because shake-out bags are made differently.  I know that for years, Eureka/Sanitaire always says, "DO NOT WASH OR DRYCLEAN".  I also know that today, there are some that say it is fine to wash.  Take a look at Air Storm.

To sum things up, it is fine to wash the outer bag of a canister like the Eureka Rotomatic/Super Rotomatic.  As a collector, Michael, you have to examine it first and make sure it will hold up to a washing.  If it is hard and brittle, it ain't going to make it. 

It is fine if you handwash the cloth bag.  Just make sure that it is not ready to fall apart on you.  Vacuum collectors do not like to wash bags, because they may loose their color or decals may fall off.  This bag is different.  There are no decals, because it is just a secondary filter.  The main filter is the paper bag.  Since this filter is made of cloth, it will pickup and hold everything.  Sweeping and vacuuming will not remove oils, odors and all of the dirt.  I have cleaned many a cloth inner bag w/o any problems when handled w/care.   Just air dry.

CarmineD wrote:
It is not against the rules to post ebay listings here.  That is why this thread was not deleted.  Posting links or referring others to your site is against the rules.  You can pay to have links posted.  Notice those ads on the side?  This site gets money for those ads being there.  So why should someone come on here and post a link to their website, phone number, or address of their business for free, when others pay for it?

In the past, I have deleted posts where someone has come on here and posted links to their website.  They come on with "have you tried this product yet, WOW! It is great!"  Or, "tell me what you think."  It can be anything, including porno.

Posting your own ebay auction should be considered the same thing, but there are no specific rules, yet.  There will be soon, because we do know what will happen.  So when red flags come up, all one can do is point out something that looks suspicious.  Now, don't anyone get on their "high horse" and say "Well, I never".  Oh, yes, you have.  Think through the years, on all the different sites.  Remember someone coming on and "selling" a Kirby.  Then someone comes on and points out that it is a Kirby salesman.  How about this site?  I think I have read where someone has made mention of dyson salesmen.  So all one can do is point out suspicious points made.
 
I hope that answered your question(s), Carmine.  BTW, if anyone has any comments, just email me.