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Location: NE Minnesota
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
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Okay, Stupid Question Time
Original Message   Feb 19, 2005 11:35 am
I am contemplating installing my new adjustable carburator on my 10hp tecumseh engine....the red choke knob, how is it attached to the rod...threads? just pressed on?

Please let me know the secret of the tec engine.

bbwb

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Richie


Bring On The White Stuff

Location: Long Island, New York
Joined: Dec 12, 2003
Points: 562

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #2   Feb 20, 2005 1:21 pm
Robert,

Since you'll have an adjustable carburetor, I think you'll find it interesting that you'll actually be able to simulate the surging effect at operating RPM.  The difference is that all you have to do is give the high speed jet a simple 1/8 turn open to richen the mixture, and it'll smooth right out.  When I look at my owners manual, they give so many reasons for the surging, but just can't seem to take the blame for the patches they use on carburetors in order to meet the EPA requirements. 

I've been using Briggs and similar engines since I was 7 years old.  Until about 1999, when I purchased a chipper/shredder, was the first time I experienced this annoying occurrence on a piece of OPE.  Hope your conversion works out.

Richie
Mang


Location: zone 6
Joined: Dec 14, 2004
Points: 119

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #3   Feb 21, 2005 3:52 pm
Richie wrote:

Since you'll have an adjustable carburetor, I think you'll find it interesting that you'll actually be able to simulate the surging effect at operating RPM.  The difference is that all you have to do is give the high speed jet a simple 1/8 turn open to richen the mixture, and it'll smooth right out.  



Richie,

I don't understand what this surging is,  Are you describing the rpm running up above normal?  or just rpm fluctuating while the throttle position remains the same?  Just curious  thanks.

Richie


Bring On The White Stuff

Location: Long Island, New York
Joined: Dec 12, 2003
Points: 562

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #4   Feb 21, 2005 4:21 pm
Mang wrote:

I don't understand what this surging is,  Are you describing the rpm running up above normal?  or just rpm fluctuating while the throttle position remains the same?  Just curious  thanks.


Hi there Mang,

When the RPM fluctuates while throttle position remains constant.  When it happens on my snowblower, I'd have to stop what I'm doing, leave the machine at operating RPM but not under any load and wait a few minutes for it to correct itself.  Not very convenient in snow conditions.  If you try to continue blowing snow during this condition, you'll easily clog the machine.

In my case it was caused by the over-leaned EPA  non-adjustable carburetor.  Some in this forum have not experienced it, but I have on my Honda OHV 5 HP pressure washer, Sears chipper/shredder 8.5 HP Briggs L-head, and my new Tecumseh powered Toro snowblower. Since two of the three are used in the summer, I felt it had nothing to do with the oxygenated fuels. 

In fact, the manual that came with the Tecumseh engine says that you can use oxygenated fuels and do call out the percentages that are accepted.  For this reason, I felt I should replace the carb on the snowblower, which made all the difference.  I don't intend to make any modifications to my summer weather power tools.  



Richie
Mang


Location: zone 6
Joined: Dec 14, 2004
Points: 119

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #5   Feb 21, 2005 4:39 pm
That explains it richie,  thanks.

I would love to replace my carb, at 4400ft I'm losing some hp, and that dern oxy gas is crap, my blower stumbles every once in a while at any rpm and when I take it up from idle to full throttle even if i do it slow, it nearly dies, I think it's the gas.    Is there usually a place to buy non oxygenated gas(for ope) in cities that use it?

jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #6   Feb 21, 2005 4:46 pm
 Mang ,

  You lose about 2.77% of your HP for every 1000 feet above sea level.

You, at 4400 feet you lose about 12% of your engines actual HP.

                        Hope this helps!!

                                                    Fred   

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
Richie


Bring On The White Stuff

Location: Long Island, New York
Joined: Dec 12, 2003
Points: 562

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #7   Feb 21, 2005 4:51 pm
Mang wrote:
That explains it richie,  thanks.

I would love to replace my carb, at 4400ft I'm losing some hp, and that dern oxy gas is crap, my blower stumbles every once in a while at any rpm and when I take it up from idle to full throttle even if i do it slow, it nearly dies, I think it's the gas.    Is there usually a place to buy non oxygenated gas(for ope) in cities that use it?



Hi Mang,

At that altitude, you may have to purchase an altitude kit that consists of a different main jet.  If I'm not mistaken, and your machine is actually set up to operate at sea level, it may require a leaner high speed jet.  Less air mean less fuel is needed.  It may make the engine run better, but at some point, and I'm not sure if 4,400 ft above sea level qualifies, but the engine will never be able to achieve its optimum power output.  I suggest you consult with a local dealer for your machine.  They'll know exactly what you need.  Hope this helps.

Richie
Richie


Bring On The White Stuff

Location: Long Island, New York
Joined: Dec 12, 2003
Points: 562

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #8   Feb 21, 2005 4:53 pm
jubol wrote:

  You lose about 2.77% of your HP for every 1000 feet above sea level.

You, at 4400 feet you lose about 12% of your engines actual HP.

                       

Fred,

I just saw your post.  He's running too rich a mixture if he's set up for sea level, correct??

Richie
jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #9   Feb 21, 2005 4:56 pm
 Richie,

      Sure is!!!!!

That's why the adjustable carb is a great asset.

You can change your fuel settings on your carb any where you are in elevation.

                                                                Fred 

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
Mang


Location: zone 6
Joined: Dec 14, 2004
Points: 119

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #10   Feb 21, 2005 5:27 pm
To rich huh, I guess that's logical, all these carbs are the same on this model no matter where you buy it probably.

Maybe that's why it stumbles?

This message was modified Feb 21, 2005 by Mang
jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558

Re: Okay, Stupid Question Time
Reply #11   Feb 21, 2005 5:39 pm
 Mang,

      Please read the Richie "Got me hooked" thread on Carbs!!

  Might help you!

                                    Fred 

This message was modified Feb 21, 2005 by jubol


Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
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