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jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Inside an R-Tek engine
Original Message   Feb 15, 2012 6:05 pm
Well I got the bolt stud welded, new old flywheel on, air gap set, good spark.  Put everything else back on the engine.
Still don't have the gov. vane so I just used the spring to keep the throttle at the idle position and used the idle screw
to bump up the idle up a little.  Put the engine back in the housing and it start on the third pull.
Was idling and running well, then I heard a knock, couple seconds later heard another one then another one.
So I shut it down.  Was one of those sounds you know isn't good, kind of a deep sounding clank.
It only made the sound maybe 3-4 times in about 20 maybe 30 seconds or run time.
Pull the engine back out and decided to take it apart to check the rod cap.
When I took the flywheel back off found that the new key I put in was sheared.
( could have had something to do with the knock)
Was really clean inside.



Intake port I believe



Exhaust port.  The two ports on the side run down into the crankcase.  Which is up in the photo.



Rod end on crank. You can see the roller bearings
Rod cap was tight.




Roller bearings in the cap.  Most of them stayed in place when I lifted it off.




I decided to put in the old crank I had from another R-Tek.  Same part numbers.
I put a few drops of oil on the crank journal so the bearings would stay in place.
There is enough space for one more bearing, but that's all that came out.
I guess once they all get spaced that's the way it should be.




A few photos of the difference between the two cranks.  Same part numbers.
Top one is the older one out of a CCR2400
The ends of the counter weights are clipped off on the newer crank. (bottom photo)
and the casting itself is a lot rougher.




New crank on the left.  If I remember to I'd like to weight them both.




Just for comparison.  Honda 11Hp crank on top.




Key way slot on the replacement crank.
Things were going well until I cracked a ring.  Hate when that happens.  There is an alignment pin in the
piston ring groove for both rings.  It keeps the end gap space of both of them aligned right above each other.  Which normally you don't do.
Unfortunately I didn't see the pins at first, pushed on the ring when it was on top of the pin not aligned in the end gap and.... snap.





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jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Re: Inside an R-Tek engine
Reply #31   Oct 15, 2012 5:36 pm
borat wrote:
JRT:  Whatever happened with this project?  Did you ever get the subject R-tek engine running right?

Yes, I did.
But we had so little snow last year I think I only got to use it once.
And that was on an amount of snow that wasn't even worth talking about.
Took quite a bit of time to get that one sorted out. 
But I think it's a pretty nice machine.
It was in excellent cosmetic condition, no rust anywhere.
Seems to run fine with the crank and flywheel swap.
That thing had some major problems.






borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Inside an R-Tek engine
Reply #32   Oct 15, 2012 5:46 pm
That's some nasty stuff.  So what was the underlying cause of malfunction?  Bad crank? 
jrtrebor


Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
Joined: Feb 10, 2010
Points: 539

Re: Inside an R-Tek engine
Reply #33   Oct 15, 2012 8:10 pm
borat wrote:
That's some nasty stuff.  So what was the underlying cause of malfunction?  Bad crank? 

Ha,Ha good question.  Kind of the chicken or the egg question.
Actually I think the flywheel may have been the initial problem.
That flywheel doesn't or didn't have a steel center hub.
Like the one I replaced it with.
I figured that the hub cracked or was cracked from over tightening.
The flywheel got a little sloppy on the shaft.
Started to maybe wobble a little, got a little more sloppy.
Which may have started to throw off the timing some.
Now it's firing at the wrong time.  More stress on the crank / flywheel
joint.  Then at some point things went from bad to worse real fast.
You can see how the key actually wobbled left and right in the slot.
So that flywheel hub had to be really loose on the shaft for that to happen.
That engine look so new inside and out.  There wasn't even any carbon
in the muffler inlet or outlet.  I think this may have been a factory assembly problem.
Or defective flywheel.
Just my somewhat educated guess.
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