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Chuck1
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Joined: Jan 15, 2005
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New Ariens 11528 suffering from lack of traction
Original Message Jan 27, 2005 5:40 pm |
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I just came in from blowing about 12' of the white stuff. My machine has about 4 hours on it as it's new this year. I'm starting to notice that I have to push it to get it to dig in. Once this evening, on a clear patch of driveway, with the traction clutch engaged, and the unit in reverse, it wouldn't budge till I yanked on it. What could this be? The manual suggests three things: belt, friction disk and speed selector. Anyone have any hunches as to which one of these it might be, if any? Chuck
This message was modified Jan 27, 2005 by Chuck1
Ariens 11528, Yard Machine by MTD 6.0HP Mower, Weed Eater GTI-15, Simoniz S1600 Washer, Weber Silver C.
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drinkingbird
Joined: Jan 26, 2005
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Re: New Ariens 11528 suffering from lack of traction
Reply #15 Jan 27, 2005 7:09 pm |
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It seemed like my other Ariens 1128 LE, when put into a big pile of snow (several inches above the auger housing) seemed to stop, even with the auger clutch engaged. The wheels didn't try to spin. Can this do any damage to the unit? I'm usually in gears 1-3. My unit squeaked when it was moving throwing snow. Fred, I don't find a problem with you voicing your opinion, that's what forums are for.
It will wear the friction disc out very quick and put rubber all over the friction plate, or glaze your belt over smooth rendering it useless (depending which part is slipping). $7 part either way, but it takes 287.5 hours to replace and clean out the goo :-)
-Dave
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Snowmann
Joined: Dec 3, 2003
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Re: New Ariens 11528 suffering from lack of traction
Reply #17 Jan 27, 2005 7:40 pm |
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Chuck1, If you have plenty of drive in forward, but not reverse, it's likely the shift rod needs an adjustment. It's real easy. Remove the hair pin from the trunion under the dash. The trunion is the piece that is threaded to the top of the shift rod where the shifter handle connects. Remove the trunion from the hole in the shifter handle. Place the shifter into Reverse 2. Pull the shift rod upward towards the dash panel as far as it will go. Next, thread the trunion up or down the shaft until the pin on the trunion is exactly level with the hole in the shifter. Replace the trunion and pin. Likewise, the same could be true if your unit did not pull well in first or second forward gears, but fine in R1, R2 and the faster forward gears. However, if the unit does not pull well in both forward and rearward gears, it's more likely the traction drive cable needs to be adjusted to increase the force of the rubber drive disk on the drive plate. Paul Koltz Engineering Leader Snow Products Ariens Company
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jogo
Location: Westchester N.Y.
Joined: Sep 8, 2003
Points: 463
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Re: New Ariens 11528 suffering from lack of traction
Reply #18 Jan 27, 2005 7:51 pm |
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I actually had same troublw when mine was new. It was not a matter of wheel to ground (or snow) traction. It was simply a matter of wheel not moving in 1 st speed fwd or revers. If you lift the blower off ground, the wheels would turn. It was NO BIG DEAL. I simply went to owners manual, and followed adjustment procedures spelled out, and then it was fine. I would not call this a defect, just simple adjustment. It may have worked fine when 1st used. After breaking in I readjusted and it was fine again. I am happy. I am sure I would be happy with a toro , simplicity, or other well made machine, but I have NO GRIPES or regrets that I bought the Ariens. I would certainly reccomend them to family or friends. When these things are put together at dealers any more, the proper time is not spent getting all just perfect. That is the price we pay as a society always looking for a better deal. Service is lost. Even local dealers can not spend the time they used to be able to. It is either cut costs to stay competitive, or lose some business. Not everyone is willing to spend top dollar for the best. I bought from my local dealer, but I am sure he could have spent more time prepping it. I don't care what brand. Society as a whole wants it for less. You have to pay one way or another. Some of you will say "I am willing to pay a premium" for the best service. I hear people I work with say the same. We make good money, yet when it comes down to it those same people are ALWAYS looking for the cheapest. They don't practice what they preach, as a whole.
Red Max EB78001 blower Echo PB1000 blower Sears ? blower Sears 16" chainsaw John Deere STX38 Murray 21" push mower Echo SRM1501 weed wacker Excell/Honda pressure washer Ariens 11528
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snowshoveler
tides in dirts out surfs up
Location: bridgewater nova scotia...aka the swamp
Joined: Jan 3, 2003
Points: 1261
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Re: New Ariens 11528 suffering from lack of traction
Reply #19 Jan 27, 2005 7:57 pm |
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Chuck... because your from Newfoundland ,i will have to say you need everything that ariens can do and then some.be glad you have a top line machine. for anyone that dosent know Chuck lives in the snow capitol of Canada.some people in his area dont get to see out there first floor windows for a couple months.. that being said you mentioned in youir post that you almost had to PUSH it to get it to move and it wouldnt back up unless you gave it a pull. i would say you have to tighten up the sdjustment a bit. Paul said it was a cable adjustment and i would say tighten it up a small amount at a time until it will go ahead in 1st i beleive your manual will give a detailed description of this adjustment. have a cup of coffee or a wobbly pop and read that page . you should have no trouble getting in the zone.once it is adjusted right that machine will just about crawl over your house. kids dont try that. later chris
craftsman 10/28 snowblower with tracks husky 372xpg chainsaw sachs dolmar bc212 bushsaw mondo trimmer monster tractor with trailer cheep wheelbarro and couple shovels and a partridge in a pear tree
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Chuck1
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Joined: Jan 15, 2005
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Re: New Ariens 11528 suffering from lack of traction
Reply #21 Jan 27, 2005 9:24 pm |
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Folks, Thanks to you all for the prompt responces - I really appreciate it! A special thanks to Paul from Ariens. It's too late for me to go at the machine tonight. . .10:50PM here on the island. I'll be sure to try those adjustments tomorrow . I'll let you know how I make out! Cheers, Chuck
Ariens 11528, Yard Machine by MTD 6.0HP Mower, Weed Eater GTI-15, Simoniz S1600 Washer, Weber Silver C.
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terrapin24h
The more I learn the less i know
Location: Rochester NY, USA
Joined: Dec 18, 2003
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Re: New Ariens 11528 suffering from lack of traction
Reply #22 Jan 28, 2005 9:25 am |
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I actually had same troublw when mine was new. It was not a matter of wheel to ground (or snow) traction. It was simply a matter of wheel not moving in 1 st speed fwd or revers. If you lift the blower off ground, the wheels would turn. It was NO BIG DEAL. I simply went to owners manual, and followed adjustment procedures spelled out, and then it was fine. I would not call this a defect, just simple adjustment. It may have worked fine when 1st used. After breaking in I readjusted and it was fine again. I am happy. I am sure I would be happy with a toro , simplicity, or other well made machine, but I have NO GRIPES or regrets that I bought the Ariens. I would certainly reccomend them to family or friends. When these things are put together at dealers any more, the proper time is not spent getting all just perfect. That is the price we pay as a society always looking for a better deal. Service is lost. Even local dealers can not spend the time they used to be able to. It is either cut costs to stay competitive, or lose some business. Not everyone is willing to spend top dollar for the best. I bought from my local dealer, but I am sure he could have spent more time prepping it. I don't care what brand. Society as a whole wants it for less. You have to pay one way or another. Some of you will say "I am willing to pay a premium" for the best service. I hear people I work with say the same. We make good money, yet when it comes down to it those same people are ALWAYS looking for the cheapest. They don't practice what they preach, as a whole. jogo-- I couldn't agree more. This past weekend i did things to/with my "lil" 824 that would have broke a lesser machine(in fact my neighbors did break- ended up doin his drive for him). My 824 is no doubt my favorite piece of OPE, and i will always own products from the big orange-A. Funny thing is(and I didn't know this till after i bought mine) all the guys here at work that have SB's have ariens machines of various years. IMO, ariens is a great company, that makes a great product, that has great support after the fact. How many toro engineers post here? simplicity? Honda? craftsman? Remember, Paul posts here not as Paul, but as Paul from ariens. I think it's great that he does that and i think it's great that Ariens allows him to do it.
--chris 2001 Homelite VacAttack Blower 2001 6hp Toro PPace 22" mower 2001 Ariens 824LE 2002 6hp 2400 PSI Excell Powerwasher 2004 18hp Craftsman 27375 42" mower 2004 42cc Craftsman 18" chainsaw
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Chuck1
Location: Newfoundland, Canada
Joined: Jan 15, 2005
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Re: New Ariens 11528 suffering from lack of traction
Reply #24 Jan 30, 2005 7:56 pm |
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Well, I finally got around to trying some of the things you folks suggested, and, it was a snap. All I did was turn the adjusting nut for the traction drive cable one turn clockwise. After I did it I pulled the machine outside, fired her up, put her in L1, engaged the traction clutch and I skied behind it as the machine dragged me down the driveway!! Then I tried reverse, same thing. I put a significant amount of resistance against it as it was backing up and it felt really strong. It's unbelieveable how such a tiny adjestment had such an effect on the machine. Thanks again to all for the comments and assistance. Cheers, Chuck
Ariens 11528, Yard Machine by MTD 6.0HP Mower, Weed Eater GTI-15, Simoniz S1600 Washer, Weber Silver C.
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