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Re: Ariens and Tecumseh
#1   Jan 6, 2009 11:01 pm
Snowmann wrote:
Not exactly. You bought an Ariens Deluxe. They still make Ariens Deluxe models.

Even taking a small (and short) random snapshot in time 2002-2006 (per Wiki), the Camry had 4 different available engines, 5 different transmissions, and base trim, SE, SE Sport, LE, SLE, XLE version, a 2 door convertible version, styling updates, etc. (and none of the yearly offerings were exactly the same in any given year).

Seems the same to me.

PK

Two years ago the Deluxe models like my 11528 featured the remote lock/unlock lever.  The 11 hp Deluxe model today has a differential.  A pretty significant difference making brand model comparisons difficult and confusing. 

As far as the cars go the Citation, Celebrity, Lumina and Impala also all came in multiple versions.   The difference being that I can still buy a Camary. 
Re: Ariens and Tecumseh
#2   Jan 6, 2009 4:09 pm
borat wrote:

Look at the auto sector in Detroit.  Their arrogance and hubris allowed them to keep their heads in the sand for almost 40 years.  The writing has been on the wall for at least that long and finally, they've pulled their heads out  just in time to read the bad news.


Toyota came out with the Camray in 1983 and that model continues to flourish today.  By contrast in 1983 I bought a Chevrolet Citation (mid sized family car).  Chevrolet made the Citation from 1980 to 1985.  Then they replaced it with the Chevy Celebrity which was produced until 1989 when it was replaced by the Lumina, which was latter replaced by the Impala.  

Detroit strategy was to launch a new model every few years which meant that brand loyalty was impossible.  I loved my Chevy Citation but it's hard to be a repeat customer or recommend a model thats out of production.  Toyota's strategy was to stay committed to the Camary model and simply keep making it better. Obviously someone that bought a Toyota Camary in 1983 and loved it can still be a repeat buyer and a brand advocate.

I see the same problem with current US snow thrower companies.  Ariens, for example, comes out with a virtually new model line-up every other year or so.  Two years ago I bought an Ariens 11528 LE...today that model doesn't exist so I can't recommend it to anyone.
Re: Ariens and Tecumseh
#3   Jan 5, 2009 4:40 pm
Good info.  Thanks.  I would hope that with all the Tecumseh engines in use that 3rd party vendor would be all over replacement parts.
Re: Snowblower comments
#4   Jan 4, 2009 9:56 pm
snowy1 wrote:
I decided it's time for something different. I need something that works! Many people are relying on me when it snows. Looked around for an Ariens. I found a11528 DLE Pro. Traded the Toro in and will never look back.I bought the Ariens Feb. 22 '08. Since then I have did 162 Driveways/sidewalks with the Ariens. Keep in mind I use the single stage for the light snow. Not 1 call to the dealer! I'll take the Ariens differential over steering levers anyday. The throwing distance was greater, tires were bigger and it wasn't 60% recyclable plastic.

Keep in mind I put an average of 10 years of use on a snowblower in one year!

I have NO tolerance for something that doesn't work as it should when you really need it!


Snowy's experience is exactly the performance and reliability one should expect when laying down the money for a "Professional" grade snowblower.  Regardless of the brand.  Now in Toro's defense I don't believe that they designate any of their snow throwers as "Professional or Commercial"...still no excuse for the problems the 1128OXE Toro had.
Re: Snowblower innovation
#5   Jan 4, 2009 8:13 pm
The Hahn-Eclipse was built like a tank but the problem is that parts are non-existent these days. 

Interesting link below that illustrates older snowblowers.  Not sure if it was posted before or not.  The site owner was a Gilson man.

http://home.gwi.net/~spectrum/snowvintage.html
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