DysonInventsBig

Economic Rights?  Those are the words of lazy men and men who are supportive to knock-off manufacturers,  No free ride here Carmine and no 'Free Handout Rights' either.

When you speak incoherently and continually speak about a topic you've never understood - one wonders if it’s booze talking.

Why not take your theory of 'Economic/Free Handout Rights' over to Coca Cola and demand your rights - to their formulas.

I hate slothfulness and hate it more when the diligent and the good are expected and told to (and often do) carry the lazy?


DIB

dyson DiB, you're dithering again not debating.  Yes, economic rights are inalienable rights granted to consumers in a free, market based, consumer driven economy.  Unlike legal rights which are government given in a free market economy for patent/copyright protections and are time specific.  Read: Expire.  The purpose of protections is to give the invention creators their just rewards.  Not to grant them a monopoly for life.   Of course, you support the billionaire's rights over the consumer rights in the market place.  Control the consumer, don't satisfy them.  All the while impugning vacuum makers for lack of innovation.   Monopolies preempt innovation, my friend.  But, then again, small minded inventors and their supporters prefer to litigate rather than innovate. 

Carmine D.

It's interesting to see other manufacturers using dual cyclone technology as I thought the patent ran out many years ago. I had assumed that they had been frightened to use it for fear of legal action by Dyson on any possible minor technical infringements after what happened to Hoover in the UK.

As for multi-cyclone technology, does anyone know if the patent for that is still valid? If not I wonder how Hoover and Bissell have managed to use them without infringing Dyson's patent?

Hi everyone, I purchased a DC 23 Motorhead back in July because up until that point, I had only great experiences with Dyson products.   Previously, I had owned a DC 07 and gifted my DC17 animal to my parents.   The canister was working great until just last week.   When I was vacuuming, the motor in the powerhead kept going on and off by itself.   I checked the brush roll and there aren't any obstructions.  The vacuum gets VERY light use as I have a Miele that is also used in the mix.   My cleaning woman also only uses her vacuum so I'm estimating that the Dyson is used maybe once every other week.   I feel that for a four month old vacuum, this kind of problem is unacceptable.  Based on my previous experiences, I hadn't been concerned about product repair.  However, now that I do have a problem, is it true that this vacuum can't be fixed by an indep. shop?   Does anyone have good customer service experiences with Dyson?  I'm tempted to sell it on Craigslist and just be done with bagless.  The thought of having to ship my vacuum to Dyson on my dime is very unappealing.  At least my Miele is 9 years old and still going strong!   Thanks for any advice.

Yep, no multi-cyclonic tech was used in the old Eureka.  It was almost the same layout as well, with the large debris container/shroud separated from the fine dust collection compartment.

dyson DiB:

Same same my friend.  Impress us by debating technological innovations, your mantra, and their legal protections on the industry.  Not by word use and definition.    

Patent and copyright protections are not just a legal right granted the creator.  They are economic rights of the market place and consumers.  Or, do you prefer that they be used to control consumers rather than satisfy them?  The latter is called a monopoly.  And not the board game.  You can't have product innovation with innovative technologies in a monopoly.  Nor can it be had in a government controlled market system, which appears to be your preference when your fave inventor is the patent creator.

Carmine D.