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Re: Dyson AirBlade
#1   Yesterday 10:45 pm
CarmineD wrote:

You quoted only the run down data to put the better spin on your product.  As I would expect from a paid dyson employee who sells Airblades nowadays.  Or are you back in the vacuum trenches?

Did an independent lab provide the info that you posted about teh Xlerator.  If not we should also consider it to be a spin.

For example where did you come up with 19 seconds.  Absolutely bogus.  Meaningless.  The Xlerator runs up to 35 seconds and dries hands from 10-12 seconds, just like yours.  However, Xlerator is sensor activator for on/off by hand motion.  Gives the edge to Xlerator, not your brand.

How did you determine the 19 second run to be bogus?  Have you used the Airblade and timed it?  Why does the Xlerator run for 35 seconds when it dries in 15 seconds (per your report).

No microbacterial covering is needed on the Xlerator because unlike the Airblade it doesn't accumulate well waste from the hand washing/drying.   Advantage to Xcelerator.  You mention the NSF approval for Airblade but missed citing the Leeds seal and credits for the Xlerator and Greenspec approval.   Seems a wash to me.  The Xlerator is smaller, lighter, more versatile to mount in conventional public restrooms.  How about yours?  Bigger.  Heavier.  Needs more wall mounting space.  Advanatge to Xlerator. 

Sounds like the bacteria hits the floor or what ever is under the Xlerator whereas the Dyson confines it.  Toilet walls should be sturdy enough to support either brand and mounting space should not be an issue.

I'm not a paid Xlerator pro so I may have missed some of the technical strengths of the Xlerator and weaknesses of your brand in the industry.  My expertise is vacuums.  Want to go one on one with your brand against another vacuum brand?  I'm your man.  Let me know.  I'm always ready.  Never duck and hide. 

Your credentials are not so good.  You told us how Hoover would slay Dyson.  Do you remember which failed.  I will give you a hint.  You swithched to Oreck very quickly after Hoover sunk.  Now Oreck is the best of all per you.  When it failed to be sub par on your list of requirements to be considered an industry standard you quickly stated that it was not a full size vac and was exempt from those standards.  That is DUCKING.  I always heard that you never ducked (too slow) and never hit.  Except the canvas on your back.

Any reason Westminster Abbey and Wembly Stadium opted for Xlerator rather than your brand?  can't be the warranty.  Both are 5 years.  Was it price?  Is yours still going for $1400 per.  More than the Xlerator?

Maybe the next new casino will simply stand you in the toilet and dry hands naturally, with all the hot air that you spew.

Carmine D.

Re: Dyson AirBlade
#2   Nov 20, 2008 6:25 pm
CarmineD wrote:
A brand new casino recently opened in North Las Vegas.  All the amenities.  Imported crystal chandeliers.  Marble floors and columns.  $675 MILLION, over $400 MILLION financed. 

Unfortunately nothing from dyson from what I've seen so far.  Tho the restrooms utilize chrome hand dryers in lieu of paper/cloth  towels, they appear to be a competitor brand called XCelerator.  Whoa!  What a hand dryer.  Small and compact and mounts on the wall like the soap dispenser.  The airlfow is activated by a sensor when you place your hands below.  And deactivated by the sensor when you remove your hands.  Quick, quiet, powerful and leaves your hands and wrists [arms if you are so inclined and use a unit on the wall not over the sinks]  as dry as the hot Las Vegas air.   Very impressive.  Don't know the price.  But I suspect worth every penny.  Due to it's size, appears easily adaptable for household use too. 

I did a quick time check by singing the happy birthday song!  By the time I was done singing, my hands were dry.  I suspect 10 seconds.  Nice thing, tho, the dryer keeps going until you remove your hands.  Less than 10 or more than 10 seconds.  No time limit. 

Carmine D.



This is exciting Carmine.  We have had those hand dryers in TN for some time.  Good to know that the west is catching up with us red necks. 

I seldom use those things.  I wash my privates each morning so no need to wash my hands each time I visit the toilet.

Re: Kirby G6 Transmission
#3   Nov 15, 2008 9:36 am
mole wrote:
Hi H.S.

The sentrias handle assembly is the same as the g3 thru g10, the sentria has the red or orange built in carry handle at the bottom of the fork.Its a KIRBY chacteristic that handle walks side to side,nothing to worry about, the handle locks into the transmisiion mount,the part that slides back and forth when under power the handle movement forward and backwards makes the tranny shift from forward to reverse,I must say its been pretty bullit proof, the transmission has a clutch pack in it, and is run by a geared toothed belt from the end of the motor shaft to the planetary gear on the transmission itself,[sort of like a LENCO transmission.] As a side note only use the transmisission in the drive mode when under power and using on your carpeting,when moving the machine to hard wood or tile leave the transmission in neutral.the transmission must be in neutral when not under power .Try and move the machine with transmission engadged when not running and you will hear the transmission make a clicking noise,this is not good.

The motor and transmission are warranteed for 3 years parts and labor.DONT confuse this with the lifetime rebuild warranty, As some people think it a lifetime warranty on everything parts and labor,and most kirby salespeople misrepresent this.

I hope this helps ,yeah im a little familar with kirby.........

MOLE



mole, thanks for the reassurance on the handle.  I don't know why anyone would use this vacuum on carpet without engaging the transmission.  It would be easier to push and pull a concrete block without the self propel feature.

I do not use the Kirby as an upright on hard surface floors. It blows too much dust/dirt out of the vacuum path.  Not as bad as the Royal though.  Dyson is the best on hard surfaces in my experience (silence Carmine ).  Converting the Kirby to a canister reminds me of the days when my son had all those transformer toys.

You already know that I like Dyson performance above any that I have used.  None the less, the Kirby is built like an army tank and I can see why it should outlast a Dyson.

Thanks again.

Re: Kirby G6 Transmission
#4   Nov 15, 2008 8:20 am
mole wrote:
Hi Carmine,Do you think W.B. will want to unload kirby.He more than likely feels that KIRBY and S.F. has ran its course.I would NOT be surprised to see them going to the indys and box stores in the near future. A loaded SENTRIA sounds like a good deal at 500 beans...............

Welcome to the REAL world Mr Kirby........were positive.................

MOLE



mole,

Do you have any experience with the Sentria?  This is the Kirby model that I bought for only a few more than 500 beans.  My biggest concern is the handle.  This vacuum is not easily maneuvered and the handle feels flimsy.  I wonder how long it will take to break.

Re: “Anything” Dyson that makes news.
#5   Nov 9, 2008 1:54 pm
DysonInventsBig wrote:
  Hello Carmine,

 In typical fashion you twist my words. Did I say my DC15 has been relegated to the garage? The DC15 serves double duty both in my garage and home. I am beating on it deliberately. This way I can say honestly these things are bulletproof and can run well past its five-year warranty (projectied based on what I've seen thus far). It is going on 4 years old.

DIB

WARNING!!  DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME WITH YOUR ORECK.
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